for him to finally meet an eafl president and have that moment when president obama was in africa in june. nelson mandela was too ill to receive him as a visitor. the inspiration, the sight of the obama girls in that prison cell in robin island with their father, the lesson, the moral authority he has been. the nobel prize he one. that was one of the most important moments. he signed the law when he became president that made discrimination against the white minority illegal in south africa. that is the moral leadership for which he won, co-won the prize with his former presser. that is the lesson for the withhold world. >> you are so right. he is the man. a string of american presidents they had in common. back to charlene. i know you have friends and family long associations there. i'm hoping that you can report to us that he was at peace at the end. >> yes, i think that he's been at peace for some time. he's been on a breathing tube and members of the family have said for the longest time that he seemed alert. although in the last few days, that has changed just a bit because the